Re: 34L001324 Restoration has started!

Fred333 · Post by **Fred333** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:14 am

And germans do it all in a mixed way... It´s difficult.
But untill we get the message...
I think my english got better in the last two years because of writing in these forums. (I hope)
But if you don´t realise your faults they get manifested...
So please tell us if something goes terribly wrong. ;-)
Olli.

Mezo · Post by **Mezo** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:51 am

Fred333 wrote:I think my english got better in the last two years because of writing in these forums. (I hope)

What did you say?

Its all good practice for all the international members, only gets tricky when slang is written.

Mezo.

Jimmie · Post by **Jimmie** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:07 am

Mézo wrote:
Fred333 wrote:I think my english got better in the last two years because of writing in these forums. (I hope)
What did you say?

Its all good practice for all the international members, only gets tricky when slang is written.

Mezo.

Some of the techincal terms and expressions can also be a challenge. Such terms and expressions posed a huge problem for me when I first came to Denmark, even though swedish and danish have certain similarities. And english is no better.

Aussiesven · Post by **Aussiesven** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:13 pm

Good to see I am not the only paranoid speller... Tenere grammar lessons with Mezo, why not? Anyone?

But back to the "serious" world of bike resto... I think Eric you might be right: Didn't 100% check the parts numbers and so far all has fit OK, except the brake plunger. I can't see why a normal XT would have a different one from the Tenere model, but as long as my old one works, I don't really care.

If anyone needs the funny screw type one: Let me know and I can pass it onto a good home... make an offer!

Splashed out on new tyres yesterday... Dunlop 606ers: Nice and knobbly, with my "new" wheels it looks great. Another $200 well spent...

More in a couple of days: ANZAC day tomorrow, then a few days off!

Aussiesven · Post by **Aussiesven** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:39 pm

Got the shits today... day off, all things ready and planned to finish the engine and then find that the piston rings that the Yamaha dealer got for me aren't the right ones.

I wasn't 100% sure whether I had an original or the first OS piston, so took the whole thing to the dealer and got him to measure it and order the 'right' rings. He was adamant that I had a standard piston, so ordered those. Found out this morning that it is indeed the first OS one: 95.5mm, not 94mm - states it clearly in the book and in hindsight can kick myself not to have looked it up myself, measured it and ordered it.

So, hopefully the dealer can get an OS set by Friday afternoon - otherwise I can't do any more on the engine, which I was so looking forward to putting into the frame...

Here some pictures of the engine's bottom end so far. All went together well, sealed up and ready for the top end parts.

So I did a few other bits and bobs: oil cooler, oil lines and tank and so forth. The lines fabric was a bit pale after the zinc plating process, so I tried shoe polish and voila: Looks excellent.

(you can see the difference in the picture)

Now that the wheels are finished and shod with the Dunlop 606ers I put the front wheel in to start on the front break; bleeding the lines as well...

The bleeding process hasn't worked that well yet. Never done it before, so am playing around a bit on how to best do it without buying one of those vacuum pumps. Don't seem to be able to push the fluid through with the lever, so am using a syringe from the bottom end. The piston moves and brakes the wheel, but it hasn't got any resistance yet... will have another go tomorrow.

Tips anyone?

Mezo · Post by **Mezo** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:53 pm

The bleeding process never works, its a 'bleeding' problem every time Sven.

I think all the members on here including me have had problems with the front brake getting pressure, Eric was the latest & had all sorts of dram`s getting it right, wait til Eric chimes in to give his advice or read his thread as we all gave our advice on how to do it.

EDIT: Erics problem was,,,"the freeplay adjusting bolt on the lever was coming into contact with the throttle housing & was not allowing full travel of the piston in the master cylinder, i moved the master cylinder over a bit and then had full travel and a nice lever"

So Sven check you have not made the same mistake? is your lever touching the throttle housing?

Them 606`s look great eh.

Mezo.

Eric66 · Post by **Eric66** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:50 am

Regarding bleeding, make sure the lever has full travel (not hitting the throttle housing

) you must have free play at the lever (adjuster screw) ie: the lever has a little amount of slack before contact with the master piston, this is important because if you have no free play the piston does not return far enough, disconnect the banjo bolt at the master and place your finger over the hole and bleed the master 1st,pump lever feel pressure on finger and then let air out, once master has good pressure put banjo bolt and brake line back on and pump, pump, pump ,hold lever in a crack bleed nipple on caliper, once air and fluid come out do up nipple and repeat ( keep lever in until nipple is re-tightened). Make sure to keep master full of fluid, pretty soon you should have a reasonable lever pressure. Lever improves once used and pads wear in etc.
Regards Eric

Aussiesven · Post by **Aussiesven** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:15 am

Thanks Eric and Mezo for the 'bleeding' advice...

Got myself a 50mm syringe from the vet for $2, which worked well... but it sucked through that much fluid that I emptied the reservoir a couple of times (doh!) and had to start all over again. Finally I got all the air out and now have some pressure on the disc - not rock hard yet, but as Eric said, maybe it beds in after a while. If that doesn't do it I may need a new master cylinder? Can oil bypass the seal? It doesn't leak or even weep at the lever, so it appears to still be sealing well (even after 28 years).

I can pull the lever almost up to the handle, with a little free play at the plunger/adjustment screw... so that all looks OK.

Will leave it for now and concentrate on all the other items...

As expected a few more desasters once you fill things up with liquids: The fork seals are the wrong ones (ex 43F, not 34L... early error coming back to haunt me as I did NOT compare part numbers, assuming they are the same.

). So once I filled the forks up, put air on it: They leaked like a sieve. New seals on the way.

Then the ordered correct piston rings also didn't arrive by Friday afternoon... so there goes my plan to got the engine in today. After measuring again, I am actually on the second OS! 96mm. Makes sense now, as one ring has "R 100" stamped on it, the piston has a number "2" and a "10" on it, for 1mm over sized.

Funny how it all comes together once you know what you are looking for. Embarrassing for the dealer though that I had to "guide" him on what to order and how to measure... probably not the place to get your bike done!?

With no rings and leaking forks I did all else: electrics, oil lines, tank, rear fender, exhaust, rear wheel... looks fantastic.

Am glad that I stuck to the original colour scheme red/white/black/gold. Was thinking at some stage to change to blue/yellow... maybe the next project: Find a nice 86er 1VJ Tenere..?! :tenere:

Or maybe even one of those big suckers... a friend of mine had one for a while, back in the old days... heavy, but a great bike!

Anyway, digressing.. back to business...

After looking at the "fit???" of the new seat cover for my one man seat I decided to give the seat to the professionals... no point cocking it up and then having to get a new cover that again won't fit 100% (seems to be about 2-3cm too long and not cut for a 45 degree angle at the back). Let's see whether the professional will do a professional job... told him "take your time, but it has to be nice and wrinkle free... happy to pay for good workmanship!" - probably jinxed it now.

Finally onto the tank now as well: Welded the crack, primed, and going through the puttying stages to find all the dents and imperfections... brings back memories! Haven't bogged and filled for years - used to do it all day during my apprenticeship days as a pattern maker - like riding a bike:

...

Should make good progress today as the weather is s%*#it...

Mezo · Post by **Mezo** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:47 am

Aussiesven wrote:Or maybe even one of those big suckers... a friend of mine had one for a while, back in the old days... heavy, but a great bike!

You will have better luck flying to the moon with a firework sticking out your bumcheeks than finding an Africa Twin for sale in Australia, never officially imported & only a dozen or so in the country.

Is that a Dave Lambeth seat cover i see?

Looking really nice Sven.

Mezo.

socks · Post by **socks** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:20 am

Yea Sven Go man you are going to feel SO fu%%in good riding that bike.

Like 10foot tall

and high as a kite.

Late 80's I looked so hard for a Gauloise 55W in vain and ended up with the red and white, just as sweet. But the Gauloise one's are so hens teeth, if you dont someone ought to do the Gauloise.

Enjoy this part Sven and the rest well BIG

watchin ya

Socks