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CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:32 pm
by derdres
Hi there

The CDI on my bike is toast. I bought a new aftermarket CDI that is exactly like the ones from a 34 L / 55 W. I was told that it should be an easy fit for a 3AJ, but it sure as hell does not seem like it.

Can someone help me out?

Re: CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:41 am
by ActionManMelb
The 3aj has extra wires for the side stand and neutral switch cut outs.
It is possible to ignore these wires and just use the eight essential wires. :sherlock:

From the alternator there are five wires. Two for AC power for the CDI (red & brown) and three for the timing trigger pulse (red/white,green/white,green).
There are three other wires needed (orange,black) to the coil and black/white for the kill switch. These are common to all 600cc cdi bikes from 1983 to 1989.

Ignore any blue or blue striped wires and it will run. :riding:

Re: CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:02 am
by Fred333
Aahh, this helps me aswell.
I didn“t know how to struggle with the Black and Black/white.
Thanks for that.
Fred

Re: CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:00 am
by ActionManMelb
Another troubleshooting tip I forgot to mention.

If you have no spark and suspect the ignition switch or kill switch might be faulty,
remove the tank and dis-connect the black/white wire at the CDI.
This will allow spark at all times.
Also remember that the CDI gets NO power from the battery or the ignition switch, it comes from its own private alternator!! :sherlock:

Re: CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:32 pm
by derdres
Hi melb

Thanks a bunch, this is great! I had compared the wiring schemes and it seemed that it was the blue ones, both blue and blue/white, I was missing with the 34L/55W-CDI.

Do I have to cover/block the blue wires that aren't used?

For people interested you can see the wiring diagram of a 3AJ

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I have marked the blue (L) and the blue/white-striped (L/Y) with red color.

For people interested in this thread this is the wiring schemes for the 34L/55W and 3AJ:

http://xt600.de/xt_werkstatt/_technisch ... _83_85.jpg
http://xt600.de/xt_werkstatt/_technisch ... _83_85.jpg

Thanks /dres

Re: CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:02 pm
by Mezo
There`s a nice big colour wiring diagram Dres in the "Hot Links" section under manuals,
its a 6 page PDF you stick together to give a nice giant diagram (easy to read).

Mezo.

Re: CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:34 pm
by derdres
Well now I feel kind of stupid :)

I have been browsing around and I know about the policty towards pictures of male genitals (the forum rules) but I hadn't seen the hot links. This is truely great and it could have saved me some time.

Re: CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:45 pm
by Mezo
You can post a picture of your ballsack if you want to, worth a laugh i guess. :lol:

If you read through my 3AJ rebuild on page four it says about the diagram there, i found it invaluable when i was doing my wiring as its big & in colour (handy to trace the wires).

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Mezo.

Re: CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:51 am
by derdres
Im about to follow the advice given by Melb - ignoring the blue wires.

Can it be done wrong (i guess everything can :)?

Do I have to cover / block the unused wires?

CDI problem - possible to fit a 34L/55W CDI on a 3AJ

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:57 am
by Mezo
derdres wrote:Im about to follow the advice given by Melb - ignoring the blue wires.

Can it be done wrong (i guess everything can :)?

Do I have to cover / block the unused wires?
Dont worry, our Dave knows his shit, and yes always put a bit of heat shrink over any bare wires (good pravtice) Mezo.