Oh no I've taken it apart

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Oh no I've taken it apart

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Took clutch out I held against it using actionmans rag trick! How do you hold against the centre bit to get the big nut off without breaking the fingers of the basket
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The camshaft and rockers look ok to me
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What are all these wee holes? The piston looks brand new
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How do I tell if it's a standard piston
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The bore feels ok with no scores should I get it honed and fit new rings. What should I check while its apart how do you see 5th gear what about updated oil pump fuckin hell sorry that's enough questions!
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Pitting is normally a sign of detonation, id like to have seen the old piston. :bigyikes:

May as well pop out the valves & check the seats, and fit a 3AJ oil pump 1988 & newer (don't limit your search to Tenere`s) all XT`s from 88 onwards all used the 3AJ pump.

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"""""""""against it using actionmans rag trick! How do you hold against the centre bit to get the big nut off without breaking the fingers of the basket"""""""""""

Use a windy gun Brian
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There's a proper tool to hold the basket while you undo the nut....
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GeoffD wrote:There's a proper tool to hold the basket while you undo the nut....
I think Dave has one now? :scratch: i know Eric does, here it is.

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FFS I'll never copy that! Will try and make up a more "agricultural" version.
Can I still use the head with the pitting, is it harmless?
Cheers Iain


Edit : Thanks Mezo have found it on eBay for £27
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Yep some guys fashion one out of an old clutch plate, but it will never feel as good as the real tool.

I don't think the pitting will affect anything, if it was detonation (pre ignition) it may have pitted the valve`s face also? possible.

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Googled the part no. on your piston, looks like you have a wiseco forged piston.
The 09700 part of the number is the bore, 97mm, so it's had a +2mm rebore.
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Your next question should be why was it detonating (pinking)?
It might be worth checking the squish clearance (the distance between the top of the piston & the cylinder head) when you rebuild it.

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Those marks are not from detonation.

They are from a foreign object bouncing up and down at 5000 rpm. Could be a small screw or something.
Would have also damaged the piston, hence the new Wiseco and rebore.
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