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Re: HID headlight with LED backup

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:24 am
by Mezo
jibber wrote:not sure the fan on the back does a lot though
Yep hours & hours of reading on the heat the generated, some use a alloy heat sink, some use a fan & ive seen one with a wick (seriously) but from reading the feedback lots of people said they was faulty, and that's the problem with buying this stuff, its all cheap shite Chinese crap.

Sigh, :sadnanna:

Mezo.

Re: HID headlight with LED backup

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:23 am
by Teneroma
I've also read this about replacement bulds so until they can sort there LED technology, I won't bother. In the mean time I'll get two Aurora Duellys. Not cheap, but not as cheap as other high end LEDs. My LED light for night MTB riding was about $300, but that's the way it goes for good qual gear.

Re: HID headlight with LED backup

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:27 am
by Teneroma
Actually what I plan to do with the original head light is to check voltage drop ffrom bty to light and possible run a 5mm wire with fuse and relay direct to head light fitting to minimize volt drop and also to replace the bulbs with new as I have heard that they do lose output as they age.
Should improve things for urban area when you can use spotties.

Re: HID headlight with LED backup

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:24 am
by xtzrick
Teneroma wrote:run a 5mm wire with fuse and relay direct to head light fitting to minimize volt drop
If you do that you could use higher wattage H4 bulbs, 100/80w or 130/90w

There might be legal issues if you're worried about that kind of thing.

Rick

Re: HID headlight with LED backup

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:36 pm
by ActionManMelb
higher wattage H4 bulbs, 100/80w or 130/90w
Be careful, you will run into problems of exceeding the total alternator output which is not much more than 140watts (from memory).

Re: HID headlight with LED backup

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:33 am
by xtzrick
ActionManMelb wrote:
higher wattage H4 bulbs, 100/80w or 130/90w
Be careful, you will run into problems of exceeding the total alternator output which is not much more than 140watts (from memory).
Good point and forgot this is a 3AJ thread :bag:

Teneroma, your XTZ660 puts out 14V 24.5A at 5000rpm which is 343watts & about 300watts from 2500rpm (looking at the graph in the manual :book: )
You would need to work out what the other loads on the system are (ignition, tail light, heated grips, electronic gizzmos etc.) & how much power you want in reserve to keep the battery charged then decide which bulbs to put in.

Rick

Re: HID headlight with LED backup

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:04 am
by Noely
Hi, I have changed my globes to the Phillip's H4 60/55 +130% http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/110910148694 ... EBIDX%3AIT
I find them pretty good, not that I aim to ride at night but on the dirt roads that we ride on and getting older I find its good insurance. :nordie: :rtfi:

Re: HID headlight with LED backup

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:20 pm
by kevingrahambutler
I may be missing the point here but why not use spots for night riding, I did a 36 hour enduro in Italy last year on my bmw 1150gs with some of these bad boys, it was like turning the sun on

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/291542658513

Re: HID headlight with LED backup

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:33 am
by Teneroma
Wow, lots of good points there.
Firstly, I did not realize I was in a 3AJ thread, oops.

I was aware of total output not been that great, hence the LED spots, I was also aware that good qual bulbs will help, putting stronger H4 in, might be a good point, but total available power is the issue as I do run other stuff, heated grips, etc, but more importantly at night time I find I'm more in cruse mode, thus would not be running at higher revs..

I've downloaded a light meter for the iPhone so will try to bench mark existing output to see improvements.
Thanks everyone for the comments.
Damo