Engine options

[Yami]

Hi guys.

I want to build a hybrid XT/TT 600 (again ) to get the best parts on one bike.
It´s almost as last build but with this I want to go a little further when it comes to engine and suspension.

What I would like to have is an electric starter and a kick starter as backup.
Is there a XT/TT engine having these 2 options?
Or what else can I do to make it happen?

Regards,
Tomas

[ActionManMelb]

It can be done, I helped Xpag (Paul) put an electric start engine into an early Tenere frame.

He then rode halfway round the world on it! Athens to Magadan Russia.

Biggest problem is chain and sprocket alignment. The electric start model has the output sprocket 15mm further left.

Read his journey here....
http://www.tenere.co.uk/forum/viewtopic ... hilit=xpag

[xtrider]

Easy peasy to do . I've done one of mine and have another motor to install in another. I moved the motor over about half the amount to make clearance for the chain.

You'll need the harness , battery and such from the estart also. The kicker can be added to a 3tb and newer with the whole system of a kicker motor.


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[Yami]

Ok, thanks for info. There is no XT engine like the WR with both options then.
I will look out for a 3TB bike or later with Electric starter as well as an XT/TT bike.
Have to read some more about the 2 alternatives you have given. I can buy a TT600 with
some engine issues tomorrow for 450 £. Can´t get crappy bikes much cheaper around here.

[xtrider]

I think there was some 3AJ's somewhere in the world that had e-start and a kicker from the factory, but otherwise it's not hard at all to put one one an e-start motor, just need to take those pieces off a kicker motor. A 450WR motor would be a sweet one to have in one of these bikes.

Are the older TT's road legal over there ?




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[Yami]

I think there was some 3AJ's somewhere in the world that had e-start and a kicker from the factory, but otherwise it's not hard at all to put one one an e-start motor, just need to take those pieces off a kicker motor. A 450WR motor would be a sweet one to have in one of these bikes.

Are the older TT's road legal over there ?

I have a pic in some of my old threads here of a 3AJ wreck I dragged home when I restored the XT I had. At first I thought it was a 34L
but the Engine said otherwise. Just that one had an e-start only. I sold most of the XT stuff, stupidly.

It is nice with the WR´s having an e-starter. Often you are tired out there in the Woods and having lots of Engine stops. It goes less energy
not kicking. I have plans to upgrade the WR after the Romania trip with an external oil tank and cooling fans for the original coolers.
That should increase the service interval a lot.

The TT I will fetch today is road legal, it´s a 84 model on paper. My WR450F is also road legal. I Think this is a choice you can do
when you buy it or even afterwards if you only mount the proper parts for it to register.

[Yami]

I have spotted a XT600 3TB this weekend. 450 km´s away. It has a kicker and the Engine bracket for the starter motor is there.
But the starter is missing. Don´t know what more electrical parts that is missing and the seller can´t tell either. He bought it like this
and is used to the kicker.
The bike is for sale for around the £ I use to buy them, cheapest one´s.
Don´t know yet if I´m getting there to pick it up. Could get a nice surprise with no electrical parts at all.

[ferzz]

I think there was some 3AJ's somewhere in the world that had e-start and a kicker from the factory,

no - 3AJ with both are upgraded with the kick. It is the "easier way" to put a kick additional to e-starter engine.
But all the XT600Z Ténéré '86-'87, in Europe called 1VJ, had both factory-provided.

[xtrider]

I knew I'd seen some with both but didn't know whats original and what was added later.


Yami, is there any wires going down to where the starter is supposed to be or any starter relay? Does the right hand bar switch have a starter button on it ? These parts would indicate the electrics are there just nobody replaced the starter when it quit. Dirt and crap can get down into the motor if the hole for the starter isn't plugged, I'd stay away from it if it's open, the motor is likely shot.

[Yami]

I missed my chance. It got sold yesterday for 500 £ despite it had some issues starting.
Don´t mind that but the real cause I turned it down was beacause it was a bad day leaving home.
Had to fix the hot water boiler, wife would have killed me if I had left.

I´m probably getting TT600 #2 in the weekend. Some stuff I need on it that´s way better
then on #1. Engine is drilled to 660 cc seller says. Don´t really know what that means fysically.
Carbs is very recent ultra sound washed. It´s a runner but also a 500 £ bike, delivered to my door so
the seller really wants to get rid of it.

Have started to read Geoff´s threads today, man what bargains he does. I wish we had that XT heaven here.